![]() ![]() If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I have just modified one external link on Bullet in a Bible. IllaZilla ( talk) 05:02, 12 August 2011 (UTC) Reply However, simply tacking on a list of "omitted songs" doesn't add much in the way of informational value. These are all the kind of behind-the-scenes, making-of details that, if reliably sourced, would be very welcome. And since this album also includes a DVD, there could be info on how they filmed it (how many cameras, what kind of filming technology, what angles it was shot from, how they lit it), the visual aspects of the concert (what was the stage show like? Was there a video component? Did they dress a certain way? etc.), and of course creating the actual DVD (editing, menus, packaging). There's usually more to the story of creating a live album than the soundboard guy simply hitting record: There's how they decided on the setlist, how they captured the sound of the crowd on record (there are several ways this is usually done), how they mixed and edited it, etc. But I doubt such sources exist I haven't seen anything about how they went about creating this album other than the dates & locations of the concerts. something about the process of creating the album and editing the 2 concerts down to 1 CD), then that'd be something. ![]() If there were reliably-sourced content about what songs they left out and why (ie. This is especially the case here, where the album is culled from 2 concerts (and it's not guaranteed that the setlist was identical at both concerts). As I said back in January, most live albums don't include all of the songs performed at the concerts they were recorded at because the average CD only holds between 60 and 80 minutes of music. The problem with "omitted songs" is that the information is (A) hard to reliably source, and (B) not very relevant. 24.255.38.190 ( talk) 04:10, 31 January 2011 (UTC) Reply This conversation is 8 months old, it's long over. I remember a time when another section was edited in and I was like, "Hey, that's a nice addition". IllaZilla ( talk) 21:05, 30 January 2011 (UTC) Reply I understand that they don't belong in a track listing, but they should at least get a mention under a separate section. It's typical for a live album not to include every single song an artist performed at the concert(s) where the album was recorded, since a CD has only ~80 minutes of playing time. This is not a setlist of Green Day's performance, it is a tracklist of the album. 24.255.38.190 ( talk) 20:57, 30 January 2011 (UTC) Reply Omitted songs do not belong in a tracklist because they are not part of the album. YouTube videos don't prove anything? So if there's videographic proof that something happened, it doesn't mean it did? I guess we can go delete all the instances of articles having sections for music videos since there's no proof they actually exist. Seriously, what is so hard to understand about sourcing the material properly? Nouse4aname ( talk) 12:05, 11 September 2010 (UTC) Reply It is a fan site, and is in no way suitable for referincing the material. As for the greendayvideos website, then it is just laughable if you think that is considered a reliable source. Find a review by Rolling Stone, NME, MTV etc and you may be getting somewhere, as it is, the set list remains unreferenced. They are not considered reliable sources. ![]() ![]() Chickenguy13 ( talk) 01:05, 11 September 2010 (UTC) Reply YouTube videos do not prove anything. There's concert reviews, so i re-added them, and please do not remove them again. There are audience recordings of them on YouTube, ect. Nouse4aname ( talk) 14:24, 10 September 2010 (UTC) Reply Chickenguy13 ( talk) 10:15, 10 September 2010 (UTC) Reply Unless you can reliably source the original set list, then it cannot be included. It's a track listing for a live album, not a concert setlist.- 90.212.181.118 ( talk) 17:54, 8 September 2010 (UTC) Reply Chickenguy13 ( talk) 08:35, 29 August 2010 (UTC) Reply I strongly agree. Why does someone keep adding the omitted songs to the track list? i think it's better to have a section for them instead of adding them to the track list and just putting (not shown) next to them, somebody please stop changing it. ![]()
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